Council Work Session Meeting

0:10Welcome everyone. Today is March the 3rd of 2026. This is the City Council Work Session meeting. Our meetings are public and you're welcome to join us in person all by watching from the Council agenda page, Zoom or YouTube. We hope you continue to join us in whichever manner you feel the most comfortable. This is a work session meeting during which there is no public comment.

0:32You can join us on March 10th during the 7 p.m. formal meeting to share your comments. We of course welcome your feedback anytime. You can send it by mail at PO Box 145476. It's a select city Utah A414. You can also send it by email at council.commons at slc.gov or using our 24-hour phone comment line at 801-535-7654.

1:03Comments we receive on agenda topics are shared with Council members posted in our website slc.gov-cancel. Our first agenda item is an informational update from the administration. Katie Reiser, Deputy Director of Community Outreach, Andrew Johnston, Director of Homeless Policy and Outreach are going to join us at the table and it is your time now.

1:27Welcome. Thanks Council. Good afternoon. Let's go to the next slide. Before diving in I want to remind everyone that you can, at shapeslc at shape.slc.gov is your go-to resource for staying engaged on neighborhood projects across the city. We encourage residents to visit regularly for ongoing opportunities to participate.

1:53Next slide. Looks like we missed an update starting with planning and CRA. The Capitol Hill Plan update is actively underway with community engagement ongoing as the plan is being drafted. For those who want to get involved there is a public engagement event scheduled at Mountain West Sider on March 11th from 5.30 to 7 pm.

2:18More information is available on shape slc. On the Northwest Community Plan the Planning Commission recommended adoption of the plan at its February 25th meeting. The plan is now in transmittal and will be formally coming to the Council for consideration in the near future. On the CRA side zoning amendments related to the ballpark site are scheduled for public hearing before the Planning Commission on March 11th.

2:42Next slide. Moving to public lands we've got Jefferson Park. On February 18th the city held a public open house to share two park concept designs with the community. An online survey is now live on shape slc and we encourage residents to weigh in on the park's future direction. At Fairmont Park the final concept has been released to the public.

3:07The city is now finalizing a contract with the design consultant to begin detailed design work which will include improvements to the park's north end. Safety upgrades, a new art installation and an expanded basketball court. Over at Steem Blick Park construction is underway and the park is currently closed to the public.

3:26Improvements will include playground retrofit, a toddler play area, new landscaping, additional trees, picnic area, seating and an upgraded plaza. We expect construction to be complete by summer 2026. For Fleet Block a public open house is scheduled for Tuesday March 17th from 4 to 8 p.m. at Spyhop. This is a great opportunity for the community to learn about early design ideas for the open space and to hear about public art selection process.

3:56An online survey will also go live on shape the following day March 18th. And finally a milestone or celebrating. Pioneer Park had its groundbreaking last Friday. Construction kicks off shortly with early work focusing on excavation, underground utilities and concrete pathway installation. The north half of the park will be closed during construction and we anticipate the project being complete in late 2026.

4:22Next slide. Turning to transportation. I'll start with livable streets. Work and zones 5 through 9 is nearly complete. The three remaining locations are on hold pending a required public open house under SB 242. After which construction will move forward. Looking ahead, draft traffic calming plans for zone 12 through 16 are now available and we're actively collecting feedback.

4:51Community engagement for zones 17 through 21 is scheduled to begin in April. On the popular Grove neighborhood by way, construction is getting underway this spring and summer along two corridors. Navajo Street and 600 South. Work on Navajo Street began just last week with 600 South expected to follow in late spring. Improvements along both corridors will include new pavement, sidewalk, curb repair, speed humps, traffic circles and upgraded crosswalks.

5:22I'm also pleased to share that in January transportation reached out to all 337 properties along both corridors and spoke directly with nearly half the residents living adjacent to those traffic calming features. For West East connections, this federally funded effort to strengthen connectivity across the city has had a busy month of engagement.

5:43Recent events included an art installation celebration on February 5 and open houses at the other side village and Sorenson Unity Center. Upcoming engagement opportunities incorporate free stained glass workshops hosted with together arts and we connect. These will be held throughout March at various locations across the city at the dates listed on the slide.

6:07Just a couple more on UDOT bridge replacements, the 650 North Bridge over the Jordan River Trail closed in early January for reconstruction and that work may last up to eight months. The city has a consultant team in place managing public engagement and communications for impacted residents throughout the process. Finally, I want to note that a few transportation projects remain on hold while we wait further clarity on SB 242, specifically the 2025 lane reconfigurations and Sunday side Avenue safety improvements.

6:38So we'll keep the council updated as the picture becomes clearer there. For these projects and other engagement opportunities, I encourage residents to visit SHAPE SLC. I'm happy to answer any questions the council may have and if not, I'll turn it over to Andrew. As members. Okay. Okay. Wow. It's much louder than the other one is.

7:06Next slide, please. There's a lot happening in the homeless realm with legislative session occurring and at least one bill that's in particular interest to everybody, but we'll know more than this week. So what you see on the screen is a high utilization rate again, 97%. That's probably about as low as it's been in a month or so.

7:25We've been running very, very high at the resource centers as a community. We also have an impact mitigation plan for this week of Victory Road and Warm Springs area. We haven't had a lot of these as winter, but this seems to still be a hotspot up there as usual. And then you can see the places for the rapid response teams this week.

7:44Glendale Sugar House, Jordan Park and then the industrial area as well. Next slide, please. Blue. I don't know how many code blue events we'd expect to have the rest of this winter, but the second, second coalition is always looking for volunteers just in case we have a cold spill again. And again, these things happen fairly quickly at times.

8:07So the more the signups they can have an advance, the more list they have to call upon. So we encourage the public to get involved that way. And then the next resource fair is Friday the 13th at St. Mark's Episcopal Church. That's co-sponsored by the second second coalition in my hometown. And they've been a great host with the Episcopal Church.

8:29It's been a great host of code blue this winter. So that's why they're having it there. And then the Justice Court will also be occurring at the same time at their resource fair. Any questions? Anyone? Council members? Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much for the update. We're moving on right now to item number two, which is an ordinance for the expiration of land use approval text amendments.

8:54Brian Fulmer, Council Policy Analyst is going to join us on the table. And Nick Norris, Planning Director as well. Brian. Thank you. This is a proposal from the administration to expand actions an applicant may take to prevent approved land use applications from expiring. State code allows land use applications to remain valid if the applicant works to implement the approval with reasonable diligence, but there's no definition of what reasonable diligence is.

9:27So the proposal helps clarify what would be considered reasonable diligence. I'll turn it over to Nick. All right. Can we go to the next slide please? So this slide explains some of the reasons why we're proposing to modify our code currently. Some of our land use applications have a one their valid for one year unless a building permit is applied for.

9:51And then they have an option to extend that. Indefinitely so they can request multiple options. Each option is up to one year. Brian hit on the reasonable diligence issue. So we're just going to move on to the next slide please. So this table summarizes what's changing. There's really. Five or six land use applications that this is subject to one starting with the final plats.

10:24These do not currently have an expiration date in our code. So the idea here is that they would be recorded with 18 months and then they would expire if they haven't been. The exception of this is if a subdivision is part of a phased subdivision. So that's where there may be a larger preliminary approval and they're only getting a segment of it approved with each final plat.

10:48Once they handle one final plat that becomes vested until they're done. Street dedications are a little different. This is where somebody is dedicating a public street. There are oftentimes on the edge of a property usually undeveloped where they don't need to go through any other kind of subdivision. And they're just dedicating that to connect usually connect a street between two other streets.

11:18So these have to be recorded within 180 days as well. And then we have our core zoning process approvals conditional uses design review and plan development. These are the ones that currently have the 12 month expiration date. What's changing here is what satisfies that expiration. So right now it's limited to building permit, but there's other things that someone can take that essentially vest their approval.

11:47Those are listed in the right hand column. There is also there's been some discussion of expanding and trying to add some parameters around what reasonable diligence means in state code. There was supposed to be actually a legislation in this session proposed that hasn't that didn't come to fruition and doesn't look like it will at this point.

12:11That may change that a little bit. But one of the things that we're doing is trying to make sure that reasonable diligence includes all of those different things that could essentially satisfy that. Next slide. And then with all applications, this is one other change that we're proposing is that there is a one time 12 month extension.

12:36Right now people can ask for multiple succession ones with no limit. And so this would cap that you get the one time ask. And then the other piece of this is if any of the actions expire. So for example, someone submits a building permit. And that building permit subsequently expires in a year or two years or whatever.

12:58It also means their land use approval expires because they haven't carried that out. And so that's something that's new as well. Next slide. And that is the extent of the changes. Council members. Dugan. Thank you. Nick, this is all administrative then. None of this comes back to the council. The only one that could is if there is a final plat with the subdivision amendment involving streets.

13:28Those are things that the council has to approve. But other than that, none of these other applications. They're at your discretion or you're either at the discretion of the approving body. So the land use authority that could be staff for some things. It could be the planning commission for others. Okay. Okay. And does this happen often?

13:52We have. Yeah, our design review and plan development approvals. The in the last two years. Really go through. Most of the vast for extensions. And that's because of things that are outside really their control and the city's control. It's really the financial market and their ability to get funding. Okay. Any other questions?

14:19Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much for helping us through that item. Now we're going to move on to item number three, which is an ordinance for an alley vacation. East of 519 East Browning Avenue. We're going to welcome to the table. Kate Wierritt, Council policy analyst. Diana Martinez, senior planner and John Anderson planning manager.

14:50It is your time now. Great. Thank you. This is a partial alley segment vacation request within district five. And it is located near 519 East Browning Avenue. The alleyway segment has never been opened or used. The applicant is looking for a vacation of just a partial segment. After today's briefing, the proposed schedule is to set the public hearing day at your next formal meeting.

15:17Have that public hearing on March 24th and then have potential action on April 7th. And with that, I'll turn it over to Diana. Thank you. Hello. Next slide, please. I don't have my computer today, so we're all good. This request is to vacate a 16 foot by 188 foot portion of an alley that runs north and south between Sherman Avenue and Browning Avenue in a block between 500 East and 600 East within district five.

15:57The portion of the property, excuse me, the alley that is being requested to be vacated touches five properties. Those are shown on that map in blue. The applicants is the main one is 519. This alley was platted on this property without the applicant knowing through their title report. And so they found it through that.

16:22The north point, if you look at Sherman on the top of the map, that is an access point to this alleyway. There's 13 properties that have potential or that actually do access this alley. This would not change with this vacation. Next slide, please. So ordinance 14.52.020 actually requires a policy consideration for vacating alleyways.

16:53On this one, it is lack of use. The portion of the alleyway has been that is being requested to be vacated. We consider a paper alley, which means that it was legally designated on a subdivision plat map, but never physically developed. Since 1958, we can see that there has been a garage on it. That is the top image that you're seeing.

17:24This garage has been there for 65 plus years. It has prevented any passable right away from Browning to Sherman Avenue. Next slide, please. These are three other historic. The area that we have showing. There hasn't been any changes in this garage. It has been there since prior to 1958. Next slide, please. And this is coming to you with a positive recommendation from the planning commission.

17:55They did vote four to two to send it favorably. The applicant is here if you have any questions. Just one question on the staff report. It looks like the alleyway from the north has an exit onto park. Is that true between 1370 and 1368? It does not. It was not platted like that. It does run the full north south. It does end into houses, into possible driveways of houses.

18:27The turn on this is not really truly there. It's like a little bend in the road, but it doesn't turn over to go to the park. That is not correct. It just looked like that. That's a good question. But no, it goes north to south. Just north to south. Yep. That's my other person. I just want to voice my support for this alley vacation.

18:48I had an opportunity to walk it to understand visually what it looks like. And it is as the facts have been presented that there is a garage that was constructed in 1958 and has not been an active alleyway for more than 60 years. So I just want to voice my support for this alley vacation, given all of the due diligence of the city and the property owner have done in this regard.

19:13Any other thoughts? Yes, Council Member Bichro. Does a vacation of the style require us to still charge the applicant for the purchase of that property? No. So once if it was that this board would approve this application, then the property would do a half width to where the applicant would get half the width of the alley.

19:37And then all five would get half width of what they're adjacent to. And then it would go to a civil matter to where they have to work it out to how she would get that property. Most likely she would buy it from them or give it to her. And that's in the zoning ordinance itself. If it was a commercial property, for example, we would charge them.

19:56But for a single family residential, we don't. Thank you. Thank you. I think this concludes. I don't appreciate the direction. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to item number four. This is the city's annual financial audit report. We're going to, yes. We might have to, let's take 10 minutes. So to 2.34 to 2.35. We are going to a little faster.

20:36A little break, 10 minutes. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. We're going to make a little change on the agenda. We're going to go to item number five, which is an informational item. A seat of Utah for a risk assessment for fiscal year 2025, 2026. We're going to welcome on the table, May, Beth Thompson, our chief financial officer, Anson Swanson, our deputy controller.

21:10Is this your time now? Thank you for switching the agenda around. We're hoping that. No, thank you for allowing us to move it into faster. We're hoping that the external auditor shows up and I can talk real slow instead of fast. So every year we're required by state law to do a financial risk assessment, our fraud risk assessment, and we are required to present the fraud risk assessment to the legislative body.

22:04So we are presenting it to you today. Our total points earned are 375 out of 395. So we're only about 20 points short, which is terrific. There's only a few areas and this is a pretty lengthy questionnaire that they go through. A lot of smaller cities unfortunately don't have the processes in place that we do. So I think we're very fortunate to score as high as we do on the fraud risk assessment.

22:37The two areas that we don't have is the employee elected official requirement to annually commit in writing to abide by state and ethical behavior. I think we could work on that, look forward to working on that. And then the other one would be have all governing bodies complete the entity specific training. Now a few of your council members have completed that training.

23:02If you go through and you are the chair of the council, then you are also on the board of the non-profits. So you have to go through that training in order to sit on the board of Salt Lake City Foundation non-profit. So council member Wharton has been on it. Council member Pietro has completed that. Council member Poohy will complete that.

23:25So eventually all of you will probably complete that. But that is something that is an option to increase our score if you all choose to do so. That is your choice not for us to tell you whether you have to do it. It didn't sound like a choice but I'm always willing to follow your needs. Well as a chair you have to do it for the foundation.

23:45There's a fun quiz. But it lasts for four years. Once you do the training then you are certified for at least four years. Any questions on this fraud risk assessment? Council member's questions. It's time to have some questions. Okay Council member Wharton. Oh okay. Sure. So what's the difference between a fraud risk assessment and an audit?

24:14Is that just a kind of audit or? This is basically just assessing our risk as an entity. So it's not necessarily an audit. It's saying what do you have in place as a municipality that can ensure that your risk is reduced for fraudulent activity. A good example would be in a smaller city there may not be as well defined separation of duties.

24:40So you may have one person that puts the invoice in and then also writes the check. Salt Lake City we would never do that. We always have great defined separation of duties because of how large we are but also because the controller's office ensures the separation of duties are there specifically with workday. We went through and did our assessment on security levels.

25:07We made sure that people couldn't input and also be a threshold approver which is basically I'm improving at a certain dollar amount. So this fraud assessed as you go through this fraud risk assessment it basically says you know are you completing these tasks in your municipality? So it's different than an audit because it's really high level.

25:27So is an audit more expensive? Yes. Okay but it's more like focus it's kind of more in detail. You said a high level so I'm trying to. Yeah it's more an audit would be more specific in scope. So an example of an audit say this fraud risk assessment. We didn't have that separation of duties between invoicing or we wanted to audit to ensure that we have the separation of duties between someone who can input an invoice into the financial aid.

26:02And someone who can sign that invoice that would be the scope of the audit would be do you have separation of duties and you would go down into the details of that. Whereas this is higher level of just saying overall arching city do we comply with these standards? Okay and do we also do an annual audit or a semi-annual audit?

26:27We do several audits in the finance department. We do cash audits procurement audits so we do several different types of audits also throughout the year to ensure that everybody is complying with the rules and regulations. Great. Thank you. That's my member Lopez-Chalice. Thank you. My question was related to the cyber security liability insurance.

26:50I know a lot of cities and municipalities are seeing a lot more attacks. I think that's something that looks like according to this we have $5 million of protection. That seems like a very nominal amount. I'm just kind of curious if that was something in the assessment that we need to think about at all. We could potentially go back and look at that.

27:09I don't think we have and that actually sits in the risk managers area. Not in the finance department but we could go back and look to see exactly how much cyber security we have and what it covers. I think that you as legislative body have done a phenomenal job in making sure and ensuring that IMS has the tools and the people they need for cyber security.

27:32Mr. Chair, if I could add, I think it was either this last budget cycle or the budget cycle prior that IMS requested additional funding to enhance that cyber security. So that was approved by the council. 192 in the meeting materials if anyone else wants to look but I've just seen that in reports recently and coming from some of the big four consulting firms just in terms of insurance.

28:01I'm surprised $5 million seems pretty low so I'd love to see. I don't know if that's an intent or just here requesting more from IMS. Councillor Moro-Carlson. Kudos for the high marks and thank you for the good diligence on our risk assessment protocols. I'm curious about the fraud hotline. You know, how do employees know about the fraud hotline?

28:26Do they know what a process or whistleblower process might be if they suspect that there might be fraud taking place? And yeah, if you can just talk a little bit about what that process looks like. I don't remember, it's been quite a few years ago that you all funded the fraud waste and abuse hotline. We decided at that time and I think maybe Jill was on the council at that time.

28:52I don't remember but we decided at that time to outsource and we did not want it to be an internal process so that individuals were free or to report whatever they choose. And not just employees, it can be vendors, it can be anybody in the community can report. I am on that fraud website. There's a phone tree and you can also do it on the website.

29:15The administrative internal audit goes out and does outreach with departments and they say, you know, there's this fraud waste and abuse hotline. Here's the location of it because it doesn't sit on, it sits in the finance department but there's also its own link. So we do a lot of, I wouldn't say public but employee outreach to the fraud waste and abuse.

29:37I think there's a statement on there on the whistleblower stuff. I will tell you that if in my time with the city that is a statement that we make often when somebody comes to report something, in the fraud waste and abuse you can remain anonymous. So there are times that we don't know who is putting the allegation in but also if somebody came to us in person, we would also rephrase the whistleblower act and that they are protected as well as as you do your interviews.

30:14You also state that you cannot retaliate against individuals. I can also add in the council office, frequently provide that hotline to constituents who are reporting different thing they're observing.

30:28And the quick question I have relates to, does the state auditor or a office release releases this score? Do they publish this across municipalities? Because this is a great score, I mean that's a good question but I think for the sake of those that sometimes pick on us about all the things that we could be doing better, it's good to show that we take this base seriously and as your score shows.

31:00Yeah I don't know, I can check on that and get back with you. And I'm competitive so if someone is above us, I feel like we're going to all help. We need t-shirts, I've said it before. No uncorrected misstatements. Okay, any other questions? Okay, well thank you. I felt like we can move to item number four now. The city's annual financial audit report and we're going to welcome at the table Russ Sandquist, controller.

31:39Russ is sick today so Suzanne's. Oh Suzanne and Paul Skeen financial auditor for Eddie Bailey. So I first want to say a few words pertaining to this audit. Last year we had a pretty bumpy audit with the financial system and luckily I barely worked really well with us. This year we met it on time. I would say the process has improved a thousand percent, still has a little few improvements but it was amazing to see what the controllers office is.

32:16The controllers office did with the audit as well as how well I barely worked with us on it. A hundred percent better, I think next year it's even you get better and we're going to be able to produce an audit quicker and faster. All thanks to all of you with the new financial system and us getting to know the new financial system.

32:34So thank you to you, thank you to the controllers office and thank you to I had Bailey. I've got to let my heart rate get back down to normal. I walked in and Mary Beth's speaking and I thought I was ten minutes early. And so I'll settle in a little. We're still a little ahead of schedule so I'm glad I was a little early.

32:53But I appreciate the opportunity to be here. I'll echo what Mary Beth said. Anytime that you go through the kind of system rehaul that happened with our clients we usually plan on it being about a three-year process to reach the level. And certainly in year one I think all of us felt like we're going to need ten years.

33:14It was brutal. But this year I think that we can see that this next year will be a breeze compared to what we've been through the last. I keep looking to make sure they're fact checking me because I am typically a little over optimistic about things. But as Mary Beth said this year was I think a thousand is about accurate.

33:38About a thousand times better than the previous year. We did so we did issue the main audit on time. One of the little curve balls that the federal government threw at us this year is each year with the testing that we do over federal expenditures. The Office of Management and Budget issues a compliance supplement. And that tells us what within the specific programs we need to test.

34:06They usually issue that in May or June. It did not come out in May, June, July, August or September. And then as you may recall we had a federal government shutdown. So we are in the time when we're usually executing the audit and we don't even have the guidance. Now bless their hearts the day before Thanksgiving they issued that.

34:27And it's like couldn't you just wait until the like the Monday after. That's mean. So now I have to go back and sweat over Turkey. What the heck we're going to do. So we did issue the report on the federal expenditures in January. But that was very common as we talked with other firms in the state and across the country.

34:47Other offices within I did. I had a couple of things that I just like to emphasize. The first is that one of the critical things that we offer as an external auditor is our independence. And we do go through a great deal of effort to make sure that we're not only independent in fact, but in appearance as well. And so we can completely agree with that.

35:11And so we can do that. And so we can do that. And we do not only independent in fact, but in appearance as well. And so we can confirm that we are independent. Anyone that works on the engagement and we do rotate through them. We've got a core team that sticks with it. But we do rotate through other members for some freshness.

35:32We do have an independent eye toward the audit of the city and all of the components that go into the main city audit. And then the other thing I like to remind council of is while we spend an inordinate amount of time with Mary Beth and Suzanne and Russ and their team. We don't work for them. We work for you. And this is the opportunity to report on that.

35:57And I will say that we are grateful for a great working relationship with the finance team. We, I think I can say this, we make their life hell for a few months. And they do a great job of getting us what we need and when we need it. Allowing us to complete a rather large process. And I'll talk through the process just a little bit and everything that goes into the big 300 page report that comes at the end.

36:26We typically start in early June with planning and lining up everything that goes into the audit. Through the summer we're doing some preliminary testing. And then really in August the real bulk of the work starts to happen. Typically we issue the audit on the airport first. Utilities and the CRA are shortly thereafter.

36:59And then the library is usually a little bit behind those. They do a great job at the library but it's a little different. It doesn't run through the city finance team. So we do again get great work from them but it is a little later. And then we also do a separate audit for the DEA task force. And as that rolls in and then there's a bond compliance engagement that we issue at the same time as we issue the main financial statements.

37:33And that takes us really from June to the end of December that we're causing a disruption to the finance teams everyday job. But in that and we've reported on all the other components in front of you for the CRA and others through the process. So to focus on the main city audit our main opinion is on that of the financial statements.

38:02And we issued a clean opinion there. There were two findings that are honestly pretty light given the system change. We did have a significant deficiency related to the record keeping around work and process on the fleet. And that was just a transitional thing. The new system didn't maintain records the way the old system did and there was a little bit of a blind spot there that has been corrected.

38:33And again a significant deficiency is one that if there were a bunch of them or it persisted something could go wrong. But probably not material to the financial statements. So we're not too worried about that. And then one of the things we do end up building the plane in flight a little bit with this. In order to get the audit done we start before everything is reconciled.

38:58So we're piece milling it and there are some timing of reconciliations. And I think that now that the system is up and running and we've worked out the initial bugs this year we can really refine that reconciliation process to where we clean that up a little bit. Again nothing that caused the financial statements to be materially misstated.

39:20But it is kind of the next step in really recognizing the benefits of the new system. So that's our main financial audit report. We also issue a report on internal control and compliance. There were no compliance issues that we noted. Another report that we issue is that on the state compliance. The state auditor's office puts out a local government compliance guide that we do audits in other states and I wish everyone did this.

39:53It can fill a little restrictive at times but it does help us stay efficient in how we test compliance and it gives municipalities the opportunity to comply and have a guide for it. We had no issues with the state compliance guide. And then the last one I alluded to is the testing of federal expenditures which we issued on January 16th.

40:16We go through a rotational basis where programs over a certain size are selected every three years. And in that process we had no findings on the federal expenditures and how those were used. So with that again year two of the new system was markedly better. We would still expect to have some findings as we go through that process and the learning curve.

40:42And so I would say that the team is well ahead of schedule on implementing and recognizing the benefits of this new system and certainly making sure that the reporting is done with integrity in a timely manner. And they actually still seem to be okay with me being in the same room with them. And so that's a win-win for everyone.

41:05I hope you appreciate the high quality work and the amount of work that this team puts into making it so that we can perform our audit in the way that we do. Council members? I, you know, when you mentioned about the curveballs that, you know, the federal administration has sent through our city or, you know, to all the cities.

41:30I, you know, I will comment with the Parliament and trying to figure it out how to stay compliant. And this report highlights that we, you know, we stay compliant throughout. Even through uncertainty and through government shutdowns, we follow, you know, the law as required for the grants and for all of the funding that we've.

41:55That to me was certainly a highlight of this, of this and certainly the findings were important to address, but there are, you know, certainly no super concerning. So that's, that's encouraging. So any questions, any thoughts? Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you for the work and the diligence to make this happen. Appreciate it.

42:19Thank you. Council members, now we have a report from the Vice Chair. So council members, I just wanted to give you an update that staff is working with the mayor staff to set up a working group meeting. You'll remember this working group is really focused on the topic of immigration. And this will be a roundtable discussion with service organizations for the city to learn, you know, what might be opportunities for, for support.

42:51And we're hoping to schedule this, this working group meeting for early April and more details will be shared in advance. So now do we have a report or announcements from the executive director? Okay. Now we're going to need a motion to enter a close meeting. The request is to go into close meeting for the purpose of discussing deployment of security personnel, devices or systems.

43:20And attorney client matters and I'm looking for a motion. Mr. Chairman, that we go into close session for the purpose of discussing deployment of security services or personnel and receiving advice of council. I have a motion by council member Ward and a second by council member Dugan. I'm going to call the question. Council member Young.

43:45I. Council member Dugan. Yes. Yes. Council member Pietro. Aye. Council member Chavez. Lopez Chavez. Aye. Council member Warden. Aye. Council member Carlson. Aye. And I am an aye this motion case unanimously. We are in close meeting now. Yes. And now subversive military.